Interview with Tim Passmore



You are writing you doctoral thesis on musicals. Is opera inferior to musical theatre?

No, not at all! It’s just a different aesthetic. In musical theatre the singing voice is much closer to speaking than in opera. As a composer/writer you’re actually able to integrate the use of the spoken word into the whole of your expressive palette. However, there are opera singers now who can adjust their singing to musical theatre repertoire and not destroy it. They tend to be American: Dawn Upshaw, Teresa Stratas and Frederica von Stade do it superbly. Thomas Hampson is pretty good, too, in Gershwin. There are also broader performing demands in top-notch musicals, compared to those of opera. In Chicago, for example, the two female leads have to be able to sing, give hilarious line readings and dance – and what dancing! For me, opera singers’ spoken acting usually only works in comic operas. They can be over the top and don’t have to make us believe in the characters as human beings, more as types. That’s why a good production of Fidelio is notoriously difficult to come by – the dialogue tends to be weaker than the singing.

What was your first opera?

The first opera I saw on stage was a beautiful production of The Pearl Fishers. That’s one thing opera does rather well: exoticism. Opera can create a world that never existed and do it with such a conviction. This fantasy potential is a unique strength.
I saw that Pearl Fishers when I was 13. We have some very fine opera companies, singers and performers in Australia. I saw Lisa Gasteen as Donna Elvira on TV around that time too. That production also had a powerful impact on me; I taped it and I watched it through nine or ten times.

Is Don Giovanni your favourite opera?

If we’re looking at operas without speaking, it would have to be Rigoletto. It is so damn fast, zip – zip – zip through. The last act is devastating, especially the off-stage chorus as the wind. It still gives me chills. It’s so unexpected – and absolutely realistic in terms of sound. Rigoletto also has some of Verdi’s best melodies.
I admire the mature Verdi’s pace. In my own work as a composer it’s something I aspire to. Also his brief way of handling prologues and overtures: Rigoletto’s is two and a half minutes, Traviata’s is under three. That’s a very good skill to have, to be able to set your scene up musically and emotionally for an audience in a record-short time.

Would Verdi be close to your ideal opera composer?

Yes, I would have to say so. Although I don’t like having to choose: composers are such different animals. Unlike Wagner, Verdi was a very practical man of the theatre, the kind of theatre creator that I like to emulate.
I admire Monteverdi enormously, too, because he’s able to make recitative the most marvellous music in the world. It’s quite staggering. It’s very difficult to make recitative interesting. I write almost no recitative in my own work – possibly for that reason…
I think music is one of the most flexible art forms. I think the composer should be as accommodating as possible; there is often a difference between how you imagine a thing staged and how it is going to be realised. When I was writing my musical of Hardy’s Far from the Madding Crowd, I designed whole sections that could be easily cut if they needed to be, in terms of stage time and getting action across.

How important is the libretto?

A first-rate libretto is indispensable. Part of the reason I like Rigoletto so much is because it’s based on a play by Victor Hugo. His plots are always watertight. Le roi s’amuse is designed in such a way that if one character gets what they want, everyone else will be miserable – and that’s perfect for melodrama.

Does it work better if the opera is based on a play that has already been tried out on stage?

Of course, you get the case of Richard Strauss and Hugo von Hoffmannstahl, where a lot of the ideas are original. But I think it’s a lot less risky if you take something that has already worked in another form. Adapting to the operatic form is an art in itself, and good source material doesn’t necessarily translate well into opera. It has to be a particular type of story, and one which suits the composer’s style.
For example, Cosi fan tutte has a quite cynical plot that conflicts with Mozart’s personal style, sincerity itself. I would be very interested to see what a Prokofiev would make of de Ponte’s libretto. Of course, Cosi can work well in the theatre but it always needs an angle or a twist. On its own, as a period piece, it’s difficult to bring off, unless you do it as a very light, a champagne-light piece… But even that’s a big ask because you get such moments of absolute beauty… Anyway, it will always provoke interesting stagings.

Who are your favourite opera singers?

Among opera singers I admire, I have an especial fondness for Marian Anderson and Karita Mattila. The latter's Elisabeth in the recent Châtelet production of Don Carlos (available on DVD) is ideal. Tenors – I love Alfredo Kraus in his prime, and the always suave Domingo. The best bass I have heard live is an Australian called Donald Shanks, who I think has now retired. The resonance of his profondo register was like the lowest fundamental of Big Ben.



Tell us about your own music.

I love chamber music and especially string quartets. My heroes of string quartet writing are Haydn, Schubert (for Death and the Maiden) and Shostakovich. The Shostakovich quartets are my late night listening of choice - the sinewy lines of the slow passages and the driving rhythms of the allegros resonate well with insomnia!
I wrote a string quartet in my undergraduate years which was basically an exercise in harmony. I wanted to write a piece which used every possible relationship between major and minor triads. It took me about three years to finish the piece which only ran six minutes. But that concentrated effort helped me to forge my own style. The discipline of making flowing textures from just four instruments has also been useful.
For my first musical theatre piece, Far from the Madding Crowd, I have made a chamber arrangement of the score for piano and string quartet, which makes performance a great experience for me. I can use my piano skills and at the same time explore more possibilities with the string quartet medium.

Describe your writing process.

I like the discipline of bending your musical form towards a dramatic situation. You know what events you have to cover; you already have the plan and the running time of the scenes. It gets down to quite small chunks. I do a rough plan of the scene, how the events are going to be spaced in time. You need to have a ‘lyric hook’, a phrase that can be repeated at crucial points in the scene. The principle melodic idea is built around that. Usually my musical imagination runs ahead of my text, which is fine, because if you’re going to reuse any melodic material, you’ll always have to make words fit music. Then it’s time to sit down and write the rest of the lyrics – and that takes four to five times as long to do compared to composing the music. Matching the inflection of spoken utterance to the notes of a melody takes a lot of fiddling.

…you must absolutely hate translations!

I like the few good ones, like Oscar’s Hammerstein’s translation of Carmen as Carmen Jones. I would love to do something like that with Hoffmann; treating translations like song lyrics rather than translations. You would have to give up some of the original details; it would be like writing an almost new libretto for the opera.

How did you cast your first musical?

A friend of mine and I placed an ad in PCR magazine, which drew around 70 CVs in response. Auditions were held over a couple of days. I was very impressed with the standard of the singing and acting. My vocal lines can be quite demanding, not rangy overall, but many phrases cover an octave or more, and so call for lots of very smooth register changes.

Were you also the producer of the show?

Sort of a producer: I was looking after all the props. I bought this blank-firing revolver from a gun shop in Wembley. We needed it for the final climax, a shooting. But the gun had to fire twice. We only had 90 minutes of technical rehearsal on the day, so we weren’t going to trust the sound people to get the cues right for the shooting. It was actually a starter pistol built on a nineteenth-century revolver pattern so it looked perfectly authentic. The trouble was we couldn’t find a holster small enough to hold it. It kept falling out of all the holsters they had in the gun shop. Then I found a mobile phone holder in a street stall, cut it down a bit and attached it to the belt.
I had a lovely director, Australian as well, Naomi Edwards, who dealt with the demands of the melodrama. It’s a difficult piece to bring off because it is high melodrama but at the same time very realistic. It took a lot of bravery to pare down people’s performances, to stop them doing very much. She was fantastic.

What are your plans for the future?

I want to write musicals; I believe in commercial theatre. Subsidised opera, opera as a status symbol for the rich, is something I have a problem with. As a writer I want to reach people of all demographics. I was very happy that my musical, Far from the Madding Crowd, based on Thomas Hardy’s novel, had a wider appeal than the British middle-class audience that would have read the novel. At the showcase in Greenwich, I was approached by people from all sorts of backgrounds and ethnicities, all saying how much they had enjoyed it. I have a couple of new projects underway and am in the process of finishing my doctoral thesis.

What are your hobbies?

Cooking is one of life’s delights for me. I’ve been perfecting korma lately; from scratch, with all the spices and almonds. There is also a fantastic recipe I know for a warm Thai chicken salad, where you poach the chicken in coconut milk. I also love reading, plays particularly. I guess it’s difficult to draw the line as to what is a hobby and what is work with me. The theatre and arts are what I do for my – at times precarious – living, but they fill my leisure hours as well.



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